And the L87 Battle Continues....

[jshortsl]

Hopefully they are held accountable. That pico test was shady at best.

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2026/01/nhtsa-investigating-post-recall-gm-6-2l-l87-engine-failures/

 

[8ball_99]

Everyone knew it was just a kicking the can down the road thing. Pico test and different weight oil wasn't a fix for poorly manufactured crankshaft. It's probably a combination of things anyway. Toyota on the tundra tried to say it was debris left in the engine from manufacturing. Said they fixed it. Then they also upgraded main bearings. Engines are still failing even ones who got a replacement under the recall along with new models years not in the recall. Seems like it's just bad designs. They are trying to squeeze too much out of these things. Variable speed oil pumps, stop/start, cylinder deactivation, thin weight oil. They want them to get up to temp fast eat their own waste and throttle down everything to the bare minimum anytime possible. It's like a house of cards. If one thing is off a little, it falls. Can't convince me that constant parts, recalls, and blown engines is greener then reliable long lasting engines that are less efficient Same deal with Diesels. Make them that will run 500k without a constant stream of new parts. That would be better for the environment then only focusing on what comes out the tailpipe.

 

[AXE]

They're will be no accountability and you'll like it! That's how our government and Wall Street work. Wall Street has their DC lobbyists handing out checks from the extra profit on these overpriced trucks. The politicians and beuracrats are hoovering up those $$$ and telling you they are on your side. The consumer will eat it up and pay the tithe to do it again.

Case in point, this was supposed to be remedied in later 2024 models, but it's still happening in 2026 models. Now they have a "new motor" coming out built with same crappy parts sourced around the globe and low QC UAW run assembly lines in America!

 

[MO_ZR2]

Everyone knew it was just a kicking the can down the road thing. Pico test and different weight oil wasn't a fix for poorly manufactured crankshaft. It's probably a combination of things anyway. Toyota on the tundra tried to say it was debris left in the engine from manufacturing. Said they fixed it. Then they also upgraded main bearings. Engines are still failing even ones who got a replacement under the recall along with new models years not in the recall. Seems like it's just bad designs. They are trying to squeeze too much out of these things. Variable speed oil pumps, stop/start, cylinder deactivation, thin weight oil. They want them to get up to temp fast eat their own waste and throttle down everything to the bare minimum anytime possible. It's like a house of cards. If one thing is off a little, it falls. Can't convince me that constant parts, recalls, and blown engines is greener then reliable long lasting engines that are less efficient Same deal with Diesels. Make them that will run 500k without a constant stream of new parts. That would be better for the environment then only focusing on what comes out the tailpipe.

I’m right there with you, there is no math on the big picture impact I’ve asked repeatedly and no one has ever responded with anything but “you don’t care about the environment?” nonsense

Common sense ain’t so common these days…way too many folks willing to follow the government “do as I say, not as I do” while they don’t follow emission standards….it’s incredible to me.

 

[8ball_99]

I’m right there with you, there is no math on the big picture impact I’ve asked repeatedly and no one has ever responded with anything but “you don’t care about the environment?” nonsense

Common sense ain’t so common these days…way too many folks willing to follow the government “do as I say, not as I do” while they don’t follow emission standards….it’s incredible to me.

I think they know, they just don't care. Everyone makes more money if they need repaired or replaced constantly. More vehicles sold helps the manufacturers and the government. Putting systems in them that shortens their life spans isn't a negative to anyone but the buyers lol. Even forcing requiring more emission and safety equipment doesn't matter. Just raises the price which equals more taxes. Both in sales and regeneration fees. IMO, It's not really about public safety or the environment, just money

 

[Byrds8]

The sad thing is, all this extends to all products. It's more important to have 20 variations of everything and have them fail so you buy new every few years vs buying good and saving resources. All manufacturers and the government are short sited. Much like they say EVs are so much better. Well it pollutes a lot to build them and dig the crap up for the batteries. What happens when that $20K battery pack dies and you need a new one in 10 years. Is it still cleaner? The disposal of the same said battery pack....cleaner? We have gas vehicles on the road that are 50+ years old, I highly doubt anyone will say that about an EV.

 

[landpilot]

I think they know, they just don't care. Everyone makes more money if they need repaired or replaced constantly. More vehicles sold helps the manufacturers and the government. Putting systems in them that shortens their life spans isn't a negative to anyone but the buyers lol. Even forcing requiring more emission and safety equipment doesn't matter. Just raises the price which equals more taxes. Both in sales and regeneration fees. IMO, It's not really about public safety or the environment, just money

It's always about the money.

 

[AXE]

It's always about the money.

Even the Somali pirates know that!