Yeah, agreed, seems like real world reviews appear to be better on various LZO equipped Chevys, even when factoring in ZR2 lift/overall dynamics may impact MPG slightly.Seems pretty conservative for a diesel. There's videos and reviews on YouTube getting much better mileage than that shows.
The ZR2 has no airdam for front plus those big front cut outs exposing the tires and it's lifted. So I think the aero is probably bad, which makes milage badSeems pretty conservative for a diesel. There's videos and reviews on YouTube getting much better mileage than that shows.
Hard for me to disagree with you but then I’d feel like I was agreeing with the EPA…It's the difference in aero and tires. If you compare the MPG numbers of different trims with the same power train. The Zr2 is always rated a little lower than the others. Basically if you want good fuel economy get a RST or a High Country. Trail boss gets less than them and Zr2 gets less than all of them. It's no different than buying a truck then a putting a lift, off-road bumper and bigger more aggressive tires on it. Course the MPG goes down. They are just doing that at the factory.
Personally, I'd go by the EPA numbers. They are pretty spot on, on my 6.2 ZR2. I wouldn't really trust what people say online. I have no idea why, But lots of people seem to embellish their numbers. I'm sure all the people posting these MPGs way over are just hypermiling it at the time. If you could check their actual lifetime MPG. It's probably really close to the EPA numbers. If anything, I normally consider the EPA number to be a little optimistic, lol. I guess if you just ride around in a completely empty truck alone all the time. Every truck I've ever owned has always averaged at or below the listed EPA number. Often much below their number.
The ZR2 is heavy bastard. 700+ lbs more than a TB with the Bison clocking in even higher. These trucks run about 5,700 empty.20 city
Guess I was hoping it would at least match the trail boss #s (21 city,23 highway, 22 combined)
My neighbor had one of the first 3.0 diesel 1500s a couple years back with 6 inch lift and 35s on 12 inch wide track rims. He got better mileage than that and it may have been tuned. Said he could light up the tires.The ZR2 has no airdam for front plus those big front cut outs exposing the tires and it's lifted. So I think the aero is probably bad, which makes milage bad
It's fuel mileage on a diesel.....LOL I'll bet 80% of the people buying these small diesels do so for fuel economy.Who buys a truck for the gas mileage???
Literally anyone who gets the 3.0 instead of the 6.2, lol. The 3.0 isn't bad. But it feels very sluggish. The only real reason to pick it over the 6.2 is the better MPG. The 6.2 matches it in torque, has over 100 more hp, and is more responsive. People pick the 3.0 hoping for that mid 20s mpg.Who buys a truck for the gas mileage???
I agree having been a diesel guy since ‘05 until the zr2. Emissions on the diesel, lifters in the 6.2…all government induced BS. Good to know their vehicles are exempt from emissions systems though, because they aren’t reliable enough.My biggest problem with the 3.0 or any new diesel really. Is the emissions systems. It's why I didn't replace my Duramax with a new one. It was 10k to tune and delete a 22 Duramax. Course the warranty goes out the window also. With a 3.0 you don't even have the option. All the new diesels have lots of emission related issues. Especially if you idle or short trip them a lot.
FWIW Dodge dropped their 3.0 because of problems from my understanding. Again because of emissions. They had to do an update on them to get them to compliance. When they did that performance suffered and they just weren't selling. The preupdate ones were actually considered pretty good. If you do a search on youtube there is a few videos on it. Even TFL talks about it.
Exactly, They force all this crap on us. Knowing the systems cause problems, everything government is exempt from any emissions. I mean I guess we should be happy since we buy all their vehicles also, lol. Would be nice though if the regulations didn't out pace the technology. They are doing the same thing with EVs. Even the CEOs of companies are saying it's not ready to be the only choice and still won't be in 10 years.I agree having been a diesel guy since ‘05 until the zr2. Emissions on the diesel, lifters in the 6.2…all government induced BS. Good to know their vehicles are exempt from emissions systems though, because they aren’t reliable enough.