Motor Oil is Motor Oil

[Byrds8]

I don't have to.
Just go to "Bob is the Oil Guy" website, where many have already done the testing.

There's no comparison between what a cracked mineral based oil is, aka Group III, like Castro, Supertech, and many others, and say an oil like AMSOIL, a Group IV Polyalphaolefins (PAOs) synthetic base oil.

PAOs have the following characteristics that make them well-suited for lubricants:
Uniform molecular structure for low friction and high shear stability
- Excellent oxidation resistance at high temperatures
- Very low pour points for cold temperature pumpability
- Naturally high viscosity index, requiring fewer viscosity modifiers

As for oil filters, there are the Fram's consisting of a filtering medium, w/glued on ends. which has a history of disintegrating in engines.
Then there's the OEM's, which are at the very least, the ones that one should use.
Then finally the best designed for using Full Synthetic oil, such as Wix XP, Mobil 1, Purolator, Amsoil, to name some.

I'm not going to argue w/you on this subject matter.
Use what you are happy with, just as I do.

If it wasn't for my turbo, I'd probably be using Pennzoil Platinum, which I've used on past Jeeps.

Why cant you use PP with your turbo? That is what is currently in my 6.6L and the wife's Jeep.

 

[Waterdog]

I read Amsoil has mostly moved away from pao base oils in favor of more additives. At least in their “full synthetic “ marine 4 stroke offerings. Only pure pao base stock oil is Redline oil now. I don’t know if that crosses over to the Amsoil automotive oils or not but, I would bet it does. It’s all about the costs now days.

 

[AXE]

It's getting very botty in this thread the last couple days. Lot's of nonsensical paragraphs of scraped Interwebs bullshit getting dumped. Fuck these kuntz!

 

[TexOffroader]

But some people are agreeing with the bot which fuels the bots confidence. GoHack is a bot. “My sister, who rents her cars out”, that post was a cobbled Kamala word salad.

 

[MNNJR69]

Project Farm always heats oils in his testing and weighs them afterwards to see how much evaporation there is. It's interesting to see them change color and lose volume at high temps. That's also why I think more frequent oil changes can help in higher performance motors.

EXACTLY . Everybody laughs when I say 2.5 K....
Well it's my money, but it's their engine and I'll do everything I can to make sure mine lasts longer

BTW EXCELLENT CHANNEL with great real hard data

 

[AXE]

But some people are agreeing with the bot which fuels the bots confidence. GoHack is a bot. “My sister, who rents her cars out”, that post was a cobbled Kamala word salad.

I haven't seen you in a while, I was hoping to get some validation.

By the way, how did your son's first year of school go at UND? It was a pretty crappy winter and spring, hopefully it didn't hit him hard. My boy has been working as an electrician there the last three winters and this one hit him a little hard.

 

[TexOffroader]

I haven't seen you in a while, I was hoping to get some validation.

By the way, how did your son's first year of school go at UND? It was a pretty crappy winter and spring, hopefully it didn't hit him hard. My boy has been working as an electrician there the last three winters and this one hit him a little hard.

Hey @AXE thanks for asking. He faired very well with the winter, no complaints, but he hasn’t earned his Private Pilot license yet because weather is difficult and he isn’t instrument rated yet (of course). He really enjoyed flying after a snow seeing everything covered white. Rest of his courses went well as he worked hard. I’ve taught my boys over the years to never get behind the 8 ball. I just got back from G.F. helping him move out of the dorms and into a rental house with another flight student. Soooo, he will be up there all summer flying 5 days a week to finish off. The weather is finally cooperating. It’s rough for these guys when they only get to fly once a week due to rain or low cloud cover. He’s been exploring Winnipeg and Fargo. Maybe I’ll get enough courage to crawl in the back on one of his flights when I’m up there next.

 

[AXE]

Hey @AXE thanks for asking. He faired very well with the winter, no complaints, but he hasn’t earned his Private Pilot license yet because weather is difficult and he isn’t instrument rated yet (of course). He really enjoyed flying after a snow seeing everything covered white. Rest of his courses went well as he worked hard. I’ve taught my boys over the years to never get behind the 8 ball. I just got back from G.F. helping him move out of the dorms and into a rental house with another flight student. Soooo, he will be up there all summer flying 5 days a week to finish off. The weather is finally cooperating. It’s rough for these guys when they only get to fly once a week due to rain or low cloud cover. He’s been exploring Winnipeg and Fargo. Maybe I’ll get enough courage to crawl in the back on one of his flights when I’m up there next.

Good to hear, UND is a great aeronautical college lots of good people from that region! I'm sure summer will be great for him. I was ther last week and weather was great, but I was 300 miles west on the other corner of the state.

I went to school in Fargo at NDSU, it's got a lot of activities and concerts and has grown a lot since my days there. Winnipeg is a beautiful city and the people are very nice. I went there for some concerts too. Had a lot of fun in those cities.

 

[red454]

I talked w/enough mechanics over the years, seen cut-a-ways, and read enough articles, to never use Fram, especially their cheapest orange one, where the filter material inside has glued on cardboard ends. Over the years that filter has been know to disintegrate in the engine, leaving one hell of a mess.
Your best bet is to go at the very least, w/an OEM one, with there being many other better ones out there, like NAPA's (Wix), Wix, Purolator, Mobil 1, Amsoil, and most are not really that much more expensive than a cheap Fram.
Also too, many of the newer filters now-a-days are designed to work w/Full Synthetic oil, w/much better quality filtering media, like the Wix XP and NAPA Platinum, which sadly, isn't offered anymore by NAPA.

Have to watch the NAPA filter's now as I read they are no longer made by WIX. The last NAPA Gold filter I bought for the truck said made in China right on it.